Mon 5 Mar 2007
There are things I don’t write about on my blog. I’ve never written about any job I’ve had - even when I worked in very close proximity with a 70-year-old southern woman who used the term “coloreds” on a regular basis and sometimes expressed pity for everyone who hadn’t been Saved, because them there people, they were going to Hell - because I’ve never wanted to be unprofessional and get fired, even if the material is really, really good.
I also try to avoid writing anything that would hurt anyone’s feelings - things I’m told in privacy, railing against anyone’s beliefs or passions, or just generally being ignorant and mean. I practice these manners in life, too. Being nice is important. And civilized.
Then there are things I don’t write about because for one reason or another, I’m just a little scared to put it out there.
But this week I decided to let down my guard and spill it.
And I’ll start with this: I hate Asheville, North Carolina. I know, I know, it’s not that shocking if you haven’t been there or have no idea what I’m talking about, but believe me, people love Asheville, North Carolina, and to boldly proclaim that I hate it there, well, could get me banned from the state. Or worse.
The crazy thing is every time I go to Asheville - a town nestled among mountain chains in the western part of the state, I think I love it. At first.
First of all, it’s gorgeous out there. You drive and drive and the air becomes cleaner and the views are spectacular and the town is adorable, complete with organic restaurants and boutiques and quaint inns. There are always a good number of people out in the streets walking dogs, holding hands, and you look out your car window and think, “Damnit, I am happy to be ALIVE!”
There are worthwhile historic landmarks in Asheville, too, like the Biltmore Estate and author Thomas Wolfe’s childhood home.
Asheville is surrounded by smaller mountain towns (some of which I do love) and you can take a drive along the Blue Ridge Parkway in the autumn and just about die from the beauty of it all.
Almost everyone I know is crazy about this place. If you happen to mention you’re taking a trip out there they exclaim, “Asheville?! OH MY GOD I LOVE ASHEVILLE!” and that’s how you know.
But I’ve finally come to grips with the fact that I can’t stand that place, and I’ll tell you why - it’s awful. Sure, it looks great at first, for all the reasons I described above, but spend a little time there and you start to notice some pretty annoying stuff. Like all the hippies. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve got nothing wrong with most hippies. Hippies that, you know, are concerned about shit. These hippies, however, are mostly concerned with running around barefoot and gathering in the center of town to, Jesus, I don’t know, share and eat bean sprouts and not take care of their children.
A little of that goes a long way, and believe me, the “we’re so carefree we don’t even mind that we’re wearing dirty clothes” attitude permeates the entire town, and then add to that the fact that Asheville, for whatever reason, seems to be the place where “creative” types go to just be free and live, man, so there are cars painted all the colors of the rainbow and, like, ten street fairs going on at once and one time I saw this impromptu parade materialize out of thin air. Just individuals marching around being individuals I guess. It kind of made me want to throw myself off a cliff.
It’s up to you to judge for yourself, of course, and there really are a lot of great things to do and see there and a lot of great places to eat and drink, but unfortunately I haven’t yet been able to get past the other stuff in order to settle down and enjoy it.
What really summed Asheville up for me was this one night I was walking around with my brother, Vinnie, and his friend Bryan. This was over the summer when Vinnie’s band was down here in North Carolina playing a few shows, and I’d driven to Asheville for the night to see the them. Afterwards, the three of us were just walking around, talking about the town, and I remember Bryan made the excellent point that, “hippies - they’re all into simplicity and just living on the basics - but then they sell things like beads, which are totally, totally unecessary,” and all of a sudden we noticed we were being followed by a drunk, shirtless midget, who stopped us and asked us for a dime. A dime. So we gave him one and he went on his way. I don’t know why, but it would have been a lot better if he’d asked us for a couple bucks or something. Honestly, what in the name of God is going on when a drunk midget actually asks if you “can spare a dime” like you’re in some crazy surrealistic film? That’s Asheville for you. I don’t think I’m going back.
March 5th, 2007 at 9:21 pm
I would like to proclaim this the finest No Agenda entry yet. I could go on for days about hippies and their bizzare logic but everyone already knows I hate hippies.
So in tribute to this great post I will add something that I really hate, but have not yet revealed to the world.
I HATE WHITE PEOPLE WHO LAUGH USING THE FLAVOR FLAV LAUGH.
You know who you are. QUIT IT.
March 6th, 2007 at 8:44 am
although i like tofu and have been known to partake in shared opium while jamming to a drum circle in the woods under a full moon, i’d simply add that street kids are a drain on the health care system and other public resources
March 6th, 2007 at 9:53 am
So how does town square in Carrboro compare to this Asheville crowd?
March 6th, 2007 at 10:19 am
What did I tell you, Cara! We went to Asheville to visit and now we’re no good dirty goddam hippies!
March 6th, 2007 at 12:41 pm
My favorite website dedictated to the hippies…
www.passedoutwookies.com/
Enjoy.
March 6th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
I am an Asheville native. Born here and would very much like to stay here. The Asheville from 15 years ago is nothing like today’s Asheville. Believe me, the natives would like all of the tree-hugging dirt worshipers to leave and all of the non-natives to kindly pack your bags and go home. At the rate things are going, the drive on the Blue Ridge Parkway will not show you beautiful fall colors, but will show you rooftops. We want our city to stay southern and charming and we want to wave at everyone we see with the confidence that they will wave back. We are the ones in Asheville that will kindly wave you out into the road or help you unconditionally to find your way, suggest a restaurant or just smile and be friendly.
I was initially offended, now I am proud to that someone has spoken up!
March 7th, 2007 at 7:58 am
“Don’t go back to Asheviii-ille.”
March 7th, 2007 at 11:12 am
I couldn’t agree more. Asheville is a pretty place to visit for a day or two, but I spent nearly 3 weeks there over the fall and I gotta tell you, I couldn’t get past the girls with hairy pits who stink. The place is full of gutter hippies and trashy people. I would never go back to asheville again.
January 10th, 2008 at 9:33 am
A dime. Lmfao.
June 14th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
I hate Asheville too but it’s not the hippies, it’s the yuppies with their money and their heads up their collective asses which enable stores like Greenlife and EarthFare to be higher priced than similar stores even on the west coast. I hate the dirty streets and buildings, the smoking, the cig. butts all over the place. I hate the rip-off clubs and other cultural events which don’t provide seating or parking. I hate the fact that you can drive 25 minutes out of Asheville and be completely in the Dark Ages in small towns with racism, sexism, Jesus-loving bigots. Face it, Asheville sold out a long time ago, and the smaller towns had nothing to sell out of. Can’t wait to get out of here.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
I agree… this fucking place sucks and I’ve been here too too long! Help…let me out!!!
October 6th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I’ve been living in Asheville for just over 15 years now, and I agree; it’s changed dramatically over just 15 years. More hippies, more dirty clothes, rank people on cell phones eating food out of trash cans… I mean come, on… you got a cell phone, and you’re shuffling through trash to find lunch! Get real.
It’s a really nice town. Everything’s pretty low key, you can get on with whatever you want, you can have and express your opinions without worrying, it’s safe, and the climate is very tolerable.
I can’t really stand hippies or yuppies, either. But it’s just a small town with lots of activists and wanna be activists, and plus, there’s a huge lesbian population. For me (I’m a 27 y/o heterosexual single male) this isn’t a good thing. And then you find that most of the heterosexual females don’t shave their legs or armpits… and often they rarely bathe. So why do I still live here???
Note that Asheville has been referred to as “A She Ville” quite often. Get that? A she ville?
May 18th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Well, I moved to Asheville, thinking it was a beautiful place, but found myself living in the Twilight Zone with a bunch of hateful freaks. No Southern culture, no friendliness, no style nor fashion. Just pinched faced yankees, closed minded hippies who judged me for shopping at the mall, showering daily, and caring about the way I looked. It’s called pride, but whatever. it didn’t matter to them. The mountain people were scary too. This town claims to be artsy and liberal. All I found was a few nice touristy shops filled with arrogant workers.
I am a gay liberal democrat man who has never been mistreated by anyone untill i moved there. I am from Savannah, Ga. originally who moved there for a change. I got one! A freakin slap in my face. The last six months i was there on my weekends off, i drove to Johnson City or to other states, so I wouldn’t have to waste one of my precious moments there. it was a total nightmare and the most wicked and unwelcoming place I’ve ever been exposed to in my life. I have nightmares just thinking about it. It’s really that bad!! Stay away people!! Do your research before you move here. I got out quickly before I died from depression!!!
August 24th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I found this after I googled “I hate asheville NC”. I live about an hour away and just spent the day there. I have been to assville maybe 20 times in my life and it is a freaking disgrace that the place is in appalachia. Nothing downtown except fake rich white kids acting like dirty hippies and a whole bunch of gayness. The place has nothing but fakes and freaks. The only thing I can say about the place is it seems like a safe place but it tries so hard to be sanfran liberal I would rather deal with the danger of a typical city in the south. At least they can attract all the freaks, fools, and fakes from east Tennessee.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Gosh, I can’t wait until I move out of here… I miss home so badly.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:22 am
The toughest thing about success is that you’ve got to keep on being a success. Talent is only a starting point in this business. You’ve got to keep on working that talent. Someday I’ll reach for it and it won’t be there.
November 28th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
If Asheville was a person, it would be Sarah Palin. Personally, I’d rather be in Sarah Palin than be in Asheville.
December 13th, 2009 at 11:17 am
I have lived in Asheville for almost three years, and haven’t enjoyed a minute of it. I’m tied to a good job here so I can’t just up and leave. I live downtown and hate it. I realize the tourists keep this place afloat, but the combination of them, the homeless, and the hippies is more than I can take. One thing the hippies say they love about Asheville is the diversity - WHAT DIVERSITY!?? It’s a bunch of white hippies and lesbians. Go downtown, find a spot to sit, and watch.
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December 18th, 2009 at 2:46 am
I have been searching for this article for months and months. Thank you.
I have been to Asheville once in my life. I do not dare go back. What’s especially terrifying about Asheville (and terrifying is probably the best term to describe it) is that the people you see in Asheville are working to make the rest of the world into Asheville.
I live in Myrtle Beach, which is a soul-less pit, but I STILL LIKE IT MORE THAN ASHEVILLE.
I can only describe Asheville as being a “liberal/artsy” Stepford Wives. I pinpoint this experience as my example: I was walking down a residential street with my friend and saw a homemade, rainbow sign saying, “YOU BELONG!”. It didn’t make me feel like I belonged. It made me feel really creeped out!
There is this sense that everyone in Asheville is moving towards some sort of bizarre light, but they aren’t sure why.
And, when I was in high school, I would’ve loved a few more gay people to identify with. But I swear, if I saw one more 20-something, white lesbian with a nose ring, dreads, and a radical vegan bumpersticker…
It just draws out the cynacism in me and makes me want to wear a suit, carry a briefcase, and eat a Big Mac (not from the bohemian McDonalds with the brown and green architecture).
Scary, scary town.
February 8th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
I was born in Asheville. It was great until everybody decided to move her and over populated. So I moved.
February 14th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Holy crap! There ARE sane people out there when it comes to Asheville!!!
My fiance and I were transferred to trAsheville with our jobs three years ago from Charlotte and Raleigh…we too thought it was a nice place. About a month later it became a never ending nightmare. There isn’t much we hate more than this place.
What’s with the housing? Who in the hell wants to pay upwards of $1000/month for a dump of a “house” that should have been condemned decades ago??????
The food supply sucks…Ingles is a disgrace of a grocery store. Oh how I miss a REAL Harris Teeter!!! And Lowes Foods. And Costco…There is absolutely nowhere to do any shopping. Unless you prefer to buy everything at Dollar General or Family Dollar…
Asheville: Just a thought- when you’re smack in the middle of the meth capital of the planet, IT’S NOT A GOOD THING.
February 15th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
There’s a Harris Teeter on Hendersonville Rd, just a couple miles south of town.
February 24th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
This place is so backward and ignorant, living in the dark. The hate (esp if you are a Yankee), is insane. I had a comment from a, considered educated proff, that they really believed everything north on Washington was all concrete! They discovered there were trees and mountains when they went to western Ma for a conference. Their experience in the hotel was a riot. What a bunch of hicks. Hate the place and can not wait to get out and into the civilized world.
March 15th, 2010 at 11:19 am
I, as well, employ a pit-bull who will be the most loving animal I’ve ever owned. Soon, a new dog breed will come along to the media to blast, as they have accomplished rotties and dobies in earlier many years. Unfortunate that media sensationalism breeds much inaccurate information.
April 11th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
howdy, I view all your posts, keep them coming.
April 30th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
I have “lived” here for 2 years now and I am so sick of this place. I am bored here out of my mind. Come hell or high water, when my lease is up in 2 months I am out of here, I don’t care what it takes. I can’t take TRASHeville any longer. This place is full of people with NO ENERGY and NO AMBITIONS and this is a lousy excuse for a town, rather it’s a tourist trap and retirement resort. People here are lazy, there is no industry, no jobs, unreasonable cost of living, no one knows how to drive more than 10mph UNDER the speed limit, pretentious people, boring people, unintelligent people, etc. Upon visiting Trasheville one might think “OMG this is a great place” but the plastic atmosphere of this town lies to all who are looking for a good place to relocate except yuppies and retirees. Living in NC, for that matter, is simply uninteresting. This is one state I’ll never bother living in again. I’m off to a place that’s actually real, with all that comes along with it.
May 4th, 2010 at 5:44 am
I need to add, that I do feel sorry for the natives here. It seems like people from all over the place have messed up this town. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said “Asheville: Paradise Lost”….I believe it.
May 29th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
I strongly agree with all the (negative) posts people have written about Asheville. I set foot in that town, and there definitely was something questionable about it (attitude and so much more.) The people there sure as hell are freaks, and, like the rest of North Carolina, pretty: rude, inconsiderate, self-absorbed, and everything related to the matter. Of all the states I have been to, NC is probably the worst for everything each and every one of you have said and more. I reside in Chapel Hell and, for being a San Francisco wannabe, it’s just as bad as Asheville (more like Assville.) The exact same thing can be said about the Raleigh/Durham area of 15-25 years ago. However, with how simple-minded, rude, inconsiderate, etc. the people are, it’s just really nerve racking. North Carolinians and their nauseating asses seem to think: A)the world evolves around them and B)the world evolves around NC. These Southern fucks (and transplants) should not be allowed to leave the state. Good luck in moving out (if only it were a cinch.) The state is also very backwards, boring, and just one big clusterfuck. These N(auseating) C(owards) fools can take their shitty state and shove it.
May 29th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Speaking of drugs. It’s almost as if almost everybody in the state of NC were on drugs. I am, like, what is wrong with the people down here? Then, what is worse, is the fact they think they are the nicest people in the whole planet (when in fact they are as bad as the rest of the people in the US if not worse.) Yes, right! More like they are nice up to your face but then behind your back they say some of the ugliest things around. They should simply make that point clear from the very beginning these backstabbing weasels. That or they are nice to you if you are from here (or are like them in anyway.) But if you aren’t, you are considered an outsider, and you will not fit in. Over the years, I have learned to fall in love with that. Why would I want to be like these freaks? They sure as hell have a really fucked up idea of ‘’friendly'’ and talk all sorts of nonsense. Not to mention that the cost of living is somewhat high (and you’ve all said it.) Maybe cheap compared to places like: Massholechusetts, New Yuck City, California, Florida, Pissconsin, DC, etc. but you also have all these ridiculous taxes on everything. I try to keep my distance from the people, but they sure as hell do not take kindly to anybody ignoring them. I never went to Assville before until last year, and it was the BIGGEST mistake I ever made. For that very reason, I leave NC (that one over-rated, most moved to, cesspool in the country) every chance I get, and it works 9/10 times getting away from the madness. Two other things these NC BASTARDS do/have/whatever is: A)a shitty, incompetent, way of doing things (especially their work ethic) and B)a tendency to get on your nerves and be the biggest, nosy, assholes around. They also can’t drive. Don’t ever come down here or let some North Carolina asshole convince you their shithole state is anything good. I hope 99.9% of NCians all kill themselves.
June 15th, 2010 at 12:23 am
thank you very much. good article
August 13th, 2010 at 10:16 am
You know what? I have lived in N.C. my whole life and I dont not plan on moving. Yes there is a lot of hippies and southern people, but the southern people is what keeps our southern heritage alive. There is people that is going to get on everybodys nerves no matter where you go, not just N.C. You all are complaining about “us” being judgmental and stupid when you all are the ones that are blogging about the place. You all are the ones that need help! I agree, there is a lot of hippies and racist people, but what you all need to understand is that not all of us are like that and its very degrading to hear you all say that 99.9% of NC people need to kill ourselves?? What if “we” went to your hometown or state and started talking shit about it when thats where your family and you have lived all of their lives?? Tell me how that would make you feel? I also do agree that the housing is outrageous here,but go in the other town such as Weaverville, Marshall, Mars Hill,etc.They are not all that bad and just remember nobody is going to be happy and that everybody is going to find something bad no matter where in the hell they are at! NOT EVERYBODY IS NC IS IGNORANT AND STUPID….GET A LIFE GUYS AND STOP WRITING ABOUT “US” IF WE ARE SO BAD!!!!!!!! OH and get the fuck out if you all dont like it here. Some of this I do see but other stuff I dont so know more about the places other than just ASHEVILLE!
September 6th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Gotta agree with everyone here. I think what most makes Asheville so lame and depressing is that is how self-important the city is, collectively. Everyone talks about Asheville like it is some bustling culture center, but in reality it is a backwards, faux-hippie infested tourist trap.
I will say that the geography is beautiful, though. It’s just a shame that the people here think “culture” is dancing like a moron in a drum circle full of idiot stoners.
Time to move!
November 14th, 2010 at 2:22 am
Asheville used to be friendly before all these hippies and yuppies moved here. People would say hey to you even if they didn’t know you. Wave at you as you drove by. The transplants won’t even hold a door for you at the post office. And they can’t drive.
And since they started moving here they keep building condos on the side of beautiful mountains. Then they get bent out of shape over a new walmart or staples.
Honestly it was boring before they moved here but it’s still boring now. But at least then we didn’t have to smell or look at them. And they can take their idiotic downtown stores and shove them up their hinders.
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
I have been contemplating a move to Ashville based on the opportunity of an interesting job there, but reading this thread and the negative consensus on all sides has left me completely cold. It’s sad to see a town with a rich history and beautiful mountain disposition so terribly torn culturally as to be given up on by people like yourselves, most of whom seem pretty kind and reasonable. As one poster said - “wow, where have all you people been?” I don’t hate hippies - I know they like to be dirty and flaky and get into goofy things - but I don’t hate them. I don’t hate red necks either - and find in most cases regardless of politics, some common ground, perhaps around a general distrust of Wall Street and enjoyment southern culture. Yuppies definitely fall to the bottom of the list (though I probably am one by definition) for their lack of soul or authenticity. As for rude people who aren’t civil, you can find that everywhere you look in this world of ours, and perhaps Ashville is just now getting a taste of it. They should not be allowed to act that way. If some doesn’t wave back or smile or hold a door, I ask (nicely as possible) “why the disrespect?” I agree that endless patchouli doused drum circles are enough to drive anyone around the bend, and it’s arguably not in harmony with the soul of south, like say bluegrass and roots music is. Though I haven’t been there, I am wondering where all the pickers are while the drums are a-thumpin’. Someone once said to me that the one thing that Hippies and Rednecks can easily agree on is the Martin D-28 guitar. I recommend you pickers out there show the hippies how to make real music, and you hippies show the red necks how to get buzzed on something other than booze, and you yuppies enjoy the show, and put lots of your hard earned dollars in their hats. That might be a good start.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:10 am
Heart Broken, I hope you return to read my comment, and that it’s not too late. If you have a shot at an interesting job in Asheville, take it. That’s the biggest obstacle to living there. Note how over-emotional all these posts are. Very few explained their case without resorting to overgeneralizations. Asheville is a very interesting town that extends far beyond the easily avoided downtown center where the drum circles congregate. There are eight or nine breweries, several quality, local-food restaurants, plenty of parks, little traffic, passionate local radio, a growing arts district, semi-affordable, historic neighborhoods in walking distance from downtown, a nice minor league baseball park, great music venues that draw national acts, and the list goes on . . . Few things beat walking through the Montford neighborhood on an early summer evening to meet friends for dinner at Early Girl.
What bothered me: the scene at Greenlife always felt phoney for a cynic like me (however, the beer selection and staff is top-notch), but Whole Foods bought it, so maybe we’ll see it change . . . I occasionally like to dress sharp, especially as I get older, but in this town I end up feeling bourgeois . . . and, at the end of the day, it’s a small town, so you start to see the same faces every day, which is a good and a bad thing.
But, still, Asheville is big enough to carve out your own niche. Whatever you find bothersome is likely avoidable. It may have lost some heart, what with Urban Outfitters moving in and all, but I’ve lived in the Bay Area, and Asheville’s a lot more down to earth than that.
March 8th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
I think the person who said “plastic atmosphere of this town” hit it right on the money. Sure there are a lot of cute little shops and events and things downtown, but very few if any that we need to survive. Beads, wigs, incense, etc. etc. Yeah I can live without all this stuff. Whoever said “tourist trap” was also spot on. The entire downtown is cultivated and manufactured to extort the almighty tourist dollar. I don’t think any of that stuff is genuine. I was forced to move here when my spouse decided after visiting here that it was “perfect” with “a strong sense of community” I have found that the lack of work ethic and omission of motivation or an attention span is common throughout the plastic hippy population that resides here. Some community. I got a job downtown and have witnessed the so-called free spirits with all the bumper stickers covering their cars. You know at two dollars per sticker you COULD have fed at least a dozen homeless people (of which there are plenty, not the trust fund urchins that you find at drum circle) instead you would rather tell people how earth friendly and clever you are by plastering your car with stickers that you didn’t even print! That is a prime example of “sense of community”
Namaste Asshole.
March 14th, 2011 at 7:41 am
In passing, just like to say it’s great that Sebastian Vettel and Red Bull are staying together. Like the ad, he really does seem to have wings at times so I think he needs to continue in an environment where he can realise his potential.
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